Brad
The histograms of both shots are showing a lot of black. #1 composition doesn't really work for me - it's a little too 'busy', with nothing specific to focus upon. #2 is a better composition, although the angle seems off - too much skew to the left? With B&W you have to rely much more on light, and especialy the contrast between dark and light areas. Your #2 would benefit from the lighter areas being enhanced to give it more impact. It's a good scene though, and worth trying again. That V-shaped wall gives it lots of depth.
If you use Firefox as your browser, there's a plug-in you can install (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...ogram%20viewer).
Then you just right click on any image and choose the 'Show Histogram of Image' option.
Hi Brad,
If Histograms are very new, have a read of this thread where I just posted some info about using them and accessing in Elements (if that's any help)
Cheers,
thanks for the comments guys. im going to read that article Dave. im not too informed on histograms
Mark
As Donald said, it's a Firefox add-on. But have a look at this thread too, as it has some other very useful add-ons for forum useage Firefox add-on: Open with Photoshop
According to the histogram on this new shot, your highest white count (it's like having a blood test, isn't it?) is 205. You can go up to 255.
Did you shoot this in RAW? if you want to post it to http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php I could have a go at an edit for you. Or post a high quality JPEG if you didn't shoot it as RAW. Up to you.
i shot it in RAW. i always do so i have more control in PP. ill post it on mediafire. give me a sec
sorry. i forgot that i only emailed myself (lol) the processed jpeg out of lightroom. all i have right now is the jpeg format. i can send the RAW format in a few hours