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    Re: Dare I mention the 'W' word?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Southern View Post
    and this might happen ...
    Looks like everyone had a good day out.

    Wonder how the dance went afterwards?

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    Re: Dare I mention the 'W' word?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thefirewitch View Post
    As for checking with the pro first, I reckon his answer will be pretty obvious, a resounding NO!

    I also think that you reckon wrongly.
    And, with respect, your experience appears to have been NOT with a seasoned wedding professional nor an established Wedding and Portrait Studio, anyway, so that experience (if that is what you are citing as foundation for your reckoning), is neither a broad sample nor a sample of a Professional – or at least one who has a few flying hours up.
    On the other hand, I have found, having managed many Photographers and also Guests, it is usually best to be pro-active; and in being proactive it is usually best to be polite.

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    Re: Dare I mention the 'W' word?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowman View Post
    also does the guest photographer have the same model release rights as the official photographer. If the guest photographer is merely going to provide those photos to the bride as a gift then it probably won't be an issue. If the guest photographer uses those photos for their own personal use then the question is was this a public venue and have the guests given up all rights to the use of their image.
    If "WNY" means "Western New York", then this comment makes absolute sense to me.

    But as the OP resides in the United Kingdom, I think we will find the Law differs.

    The OP should consult a Solicitor if this point is a concern: as mine is not legal advice, merely a comment.

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    Re: Dare I mention the 'W' word?

    Quote Originally Posted by William W View Post
    If "WNY" means "Western New York", then this comment makes absolute sense to me.

    But as the OP resides in the United Kingdom, I think we will find the Law differs.

    The OP should consult a Solicitor if this point is a concern: as mine is not legal advice, merely a comment.

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    Yes (WNY) that is my area. Wedding and portrait photographers require model releases if they plan to use photographs they've taken at contracted events, although I am not sure how that works out at a large wedding. Perhaps wedding guests fall under the public event and should assume they might be photographed category. I actually read a book on model releases, Dan Heller's A Digital Photographer's Guide to Model Releases, but basically put most of the information out of my mind and decided to concentrate on the photography instead. But whenever I am contemplating how to use a photograph I will refer back to the book. Here is a link to the author's website.

    www.danheller.com/

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    Re: Dare I mention the 'W' word?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowman View Post
    Yes (WNY) that is my area. Wedding and portrait photographers require model releases if they plan to use photographs they've taken at contracted events, although I am not sure how that works out at a large wedding.
    Any Wedding - even a small Wedding:

    I have been a party to many discussions about Model Releases (at Weddings) in the USA, and it seems from what I have gleaned that “Commercial Use” might be interpreted differently, from State to State (or Commonwealth) Statute.

    Notwithstanding, it seems only a remote probability (from what I have discussed and read) that any (USA based) wedding Photographer would be sued (for "commercial use") by displaying a Group Shot as a Sample of his Photography (i.e. to promote a sale of his Goods and or Services - which is "Commercial Use") to a Potential Client, where no model release has been obtained from EACH member of that group.

    Wedding Sample Albums, Websites, and Studio Walls would be very boring, if only the signatory (ies) to the "Model Release" were displayed; as that signatory is usually only the Bride as the “Model Release” is most often included as a Clause in the “Contract”.


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    Re: Dare I mention the 'W' word?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Southern View Post
    ...some will totally spit the dummy...
    LOL, that's a new one for me!

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    Re: Dare I mention the 'W' word?

    Hard to repeat this blunder with a still camera unless you are using a remote shutter release.
    http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15...video-24612782

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    Re: Dare I mention the 'W' word?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowman View Post
    Hard to repeat this blunder with a still camera unless you are using a remote shutter release.
    http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15...video-24612782
    Makes me wonder if they hired him based on price alone - $500 seems pretty cheap for a wedding.

    I heard of a wedding here that was shot with two videographers ... the first left the camera on night mode for the entire shoot, and the 2nd somehow managed to lose the lot.

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    Re: Dare I mention the 'W' word?

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Southern View Post
    Makes me wonder if they hired him based on price alone - $500 seems pretty cheap for a wedding.

    I heard of a wedding here that was shot with two videographers ... the first left the camera on night mode for the entire shoot, and the 2nd somehow managed to lose the lot.
    Even more surprising is the videographer's need to file bankruptcy after such a low lawsuit payout.

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    Re: Dare I mention the 'W' word?

    I've just heard a Harry Worth radio show, in which he tries his hand as a wedding 'tog. It's hilarious, if scary.

    Here are the links;


    Use the first link if you are in the UK, otherwise use the second.
    http://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio4xc...riday_0830.wma
    http://wm.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio4xcoyop...riday_0830.wma

    I will record it, of course

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